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Diagram made to illustrate the debate over the hands of theropod dinosaurs and their alleged descendants, the birds ( Aves ). In the last years, the difference between the hands of theropods and birds have been an important thing when it comes question the theory that birds evolved from dinosaurs, even though some scientists may could refute it. In the diagram, a Neotheropoda ( 1 ), basal tetanurae ( 2 ), a coelurosaurian ( 3 ), the bird (?)Archaeopteryx ( 4 ) and modern bird ( 5 ).
In 1997, birdexpert Alan Feduccia at University of North Carolina discovered that birds develop hands with the digits II, III and IV ( see The Cincinnati Enquirer, 25 - 10 - 1997 ). This is in contrast with the hands of tetanurae, which seems to have the digits I, II and III. This make it almost impossible for dinosaurs and birds to be closely related, according to Feduccia.
Since the discovery by Feduccia, scientific research have came up with a possible explanation to the mystery of the dinosaur - bird hand difference, called The frame shift hypothesis ( see http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2009/06/limusaurus_is_awesome.php ). This hypothesis is based on a discovery which shows that although bird embryos develop the fingers II, III and IV, the genes which is coding for the external appearance of the digits seems to be from the fingers I, II and III. Based on this, scientists belive this: when neotheropods evolved into tetanurae, the losed digit I ( not digit IV, as earlier suggested ). During this process, the genes which coded for how the digits should looks like ( the number of phalanges, for example ) became refurnished ( see the color spots in th upper section in the diagram to understan ). The discovery of Limusaurus has been said to support this theory ( see https://www.livescience.com/animals/090617-dinosaur-hands.html ).
One thing is that may can be used to refute that Limusaurus should support the Frame shift hypothesis is that Limusaurus was a ceratosaurian, and is dated to be much younger than the oldest tetanurae's.
Also, some tetanure´s may had 4 digits' like the Archaeornithomimus ( see number 4 in the diagram ) ( see also http://dml.cmnh.org/1998Oct/msg00443.html and the Allosaurus hand in the image here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Allosaurus-mounted.jpg ). If this is the digits I, II, III and IV. If so, it shows that tetanurae had the digits I, II and III, and not II, II and IV, like birds.
For more in this debate, see text section to my picture Raptor-Archaeopteryx-bird hands differens.JPG at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Raptor-Archaeopteryx-bird_hands_differens.JPG.

Diagram made to illustrate the debate over the hands of theropod dinosaurs and their alleged descendants, the birds ( Aves ). In the last years, the difference between the hands of theropods and birds have been an important thing when it comes question the theory that birds evolved from dinosaurs, even though some scientists may could refute it. In the diagram, a Neotheropoda ( 1 ), basal tetanurae ( 2 ), a coelurosaurian ( 3 ), the bird (?)Archaeopteryx ( 4 ) and modern bird ( 5 ). In 1997, birdexpert Alan Feduccia at University of North Carolina discovered that birds develop hands with the digits II, III and IV ( see The Cincinnati Enquirer, 25 - 10 - 1997 ). This is in contrast with the hands of tetanurae, which seems to have the digits I, II and III. This make it almost impossible for dinosaurs and birds to be closely related, according to Feduccia. Since the discovery by Feduccia, scientific research have came up with a possible explanation to the mystery of the dinosaur - bird hand difference, called The frame shift hypothesis ( see http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2009/06/limusaurus_is_awesome.php ). This hypothesis is based on a discovery which shows that although bird embryos develop the fingers II, III and IV, the genes which is coding for the external appearance of the digits seems to be from the fingers I, II and III. Based on this, scientists belive this: when neotheropods evolved into tetanurae, the losed digit I ( not digit IV, as earlier suggested ). During this process, the genes which coded for how the digits should looks like ( the number of phalanges, for example ) became refurnished ( see the color spots in th upper section in the diagram to understan ). The discovery of Limusaurus has been said to support this theory ( see https://www.livescience.com/animals/090617-dinosaur-hands.html ). One thing is that may can be used to refute that Limusaurus should support the Frame shift hypothesis is that Limusaurus was a ceratosaurian, and is dated to be much younger than the oldest tetanurae's. Also, some tetanure´s may had 4 digits' like the Archaeornithomimus ( see number 4 in the diagram ) ( see also http://dml.cmnh.org/1998Oct/msg00443.html and the Allosaurus hand in the image here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Allosaurus-mounted.jpg ). If this is the digits I, II, III and IV. If so, it shows that tetanurae had the digits I, II and III, and not II, II and IV, like birds. For more in this debate, see text section to my picture Raptor-Archaeopteryx-bird hands differens.JPG at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Raptor-Archaeopteryx-bird_hands_differens.JPG.

Archaeopteryx Coelurosauria Dinosauria Neotheropoda +3
Cladogram of amniotes. Based on File:Cladogram Amniota A.jpg

Cladogram of amniotes. Based on File:Cladogram Amniota A.jpg

Coelurosauria Dinosauria Maniraptora Ornithischia +2
Cladogram of the former "Reptilia" (red)

Cladogram of the former "Reptilia" (red)

Coelurosauria Dinosauria Maniraptora Ornithischia +2
Dinosaur art by me!

Dinosaur art by me!

Dinosauria
The Chicago specimen of Archaeopteryx (PA 830), a well-preserved fossil highlighting the transitional features between non-avian dinosaurs and birds, housed at the Field Museum of Natural History.

The Chicago specimen of Archaeopteryx (PA 830), a well-preserved fossil highlighting the transitional features between non-avian dinosaurs and birds, housed at the Field Museum of Natural History.

musée fossile spécimen Archaeopteryx +2
Life representation of Bicharracosaurus dionidei

Life representation of Bicharracosaurus dionidei

Bicharracosaurus Dinosauria
A badly drew sketch of Brontoholus (a placeholder for when an actual paleoart of Brontotholus is made.

A badly drew sketch of Brontoholus (a placeholder for when an actual paleoart of Brontotholus is made.

paléoart Brontotholus Dinosauria
Archeology center interior Svilajnac

Archeology center interior Svilajnac

Dinosauria
Apex Stegosaurus Reconstruction drawn Jan, 7, 2025 by Adam Treviño

Apex Stegosaurus Reconstruction drawn Jan, 7, 2025 by Adam Treviño

Dinosauria Stegosauria
Anteavis

Anteavis

Anteavis Dinosauria
Dinosaur art by me!

Dinosaur art by me!

Dinosauria
A scientifically accurate reconstruction of the dinosaur Spinosaurus aegyptiacus.

A scientifically accurate reconstruction of the dinosaur Spinosaurus aegyptiacus.

Dinosauria Spinosauria
Close-up of the traumatic lesion observed in the right squamosal bone of Big John, a fossilized specimen of the dinosaur species Triceratops horridus. This image shows plaque-like deposition of reactive bone (white arrows) and lytic lesions (black arrows) on the surface around the lesion. These suggest that the lesion was surrounded by newly-formed bone and, therefore, had started to heal.
This image was originally published as Figure 1c in the following journal article:
Ruggero D’Anastasio, Jacopo Cilli, Flavio Bacchia, Federico Fanti, Giacomo Gobbo & Luigi Capasso (2022) Histological and chemical diagnosis of a combat lesion in Triceratops Scientific Reports, 12, 3941 (2022). DOI: 10.1038/s41598-022-08033-2
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Figure 1c is published without a credit line and, therefore, falls under the article's CC BY 4.0 licence.

Close-up of the traumatic lesion observed in the right squamosal bone of Big John, a fossilized specimen of the dinosaur species Triceratops horridus. This image shows plaque-like deposition of reactive bone (white arrows) and lytic lesions (black arrows) on the surface around the lesion. These suggest that the lesion was surrounded by newly-formed bone and, therefore, had started to heal. This image was originally published as Figure 1c in the following journal article: Ruggero D’Anastasio, Jacopo Cilli, Flavio Bacchia, Federico Fanti, Giacomo Gobbo & Luigi Capasso (2022) Histological and chemical diagnosis of a combat lesion in Triceratops Scientific Reports, 12, 3941 (2022). DOI: 10.1038/s41598-022-08033-2 This article was published with the following license: "This article is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License, which permits use, sharing, adaptation, distribution and reproduction in any medium or format, as long as you give appropriate credit to the original author(s) and the source, provide a link to the Creative Commons licence, and indicate if changes were made. The images or other third party material in this article are included in the article's Creative Commons licence, unless indicated otherwise in a credit line to the material. If material is not included in the article's Creative Commons licence and your intended use is not permitted by statutory regulation or exceeds the permitted use, you will need to obtain permission directly from the copyright holder. To view a copy of this licence, visit http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/." Figure 1c is published without a credit line and, therefore, falls under the article's CC BY 4.0 licence.

os reproduction spécimen Dinosauria +1
Tawa is an early theropod from the Late Triassic. The genus is named after the Hopi word for the Puebloan sun god. It was a bipedal carnivore, estimated around 2.5 m in length, and weighing about 15 kg. A basal theropod, Tawa shares physical characteristics with coelophysoids and herrerasaurids, and its discovery supports the theory that dinosaurs originated in the southern supercontinent of Gondwanna, before diversifying as Pangea split apart.

Tawa is an early theropod from the Late Triassic. The genus is named after the Hopi word for the Puebloan sun god. It was a bipedal carnivore, estimated around 2.5 m in length, and weighing about 15 kg. A basal theropod, Tawa shares physical characteristics with coelophysoids and herrerasaurids, and its discovery supports the theory that dinosaurs originated in the southern supercontinent of Gondwanna, before diversifying as Pangea split apart.

Trias supérieur Trias Dinosauria Herrerasauridae +2
This diagram illustrates how scientists believe the dinosaur group theropoda shall be classed in a  phylogenetic tree, besides Sauropoda and Pterosauria. The main reason of this diagram is to show groups or families which had respiratory system like birds. AS in the diagram is abbreviations for "Airsacs", and ASW means "AirSacs supported by immobile femur and a knee-driven Walk". BL means "Bellow lungs". 
Airsacs are known in many different theropods, as well as in birds, which most scientists believe are descendants of dinosaurus. Air sacs are found in the primitive Tawa hallae,[1] the abelisaurid Majungasaurus,[2] as well as Allosauroids like Aerosteon.[3] There is also evidence for respiratory systems like penguinss in Deinonychosaurians.[4] The primitive bird Archaeopteryx also had airsacs (Bonde and Christiansen, 2000).
It is very likely that Deinonychosaurians had airsacs. We don't know  whether Deinonychosauria had a walking/breathing system with immobile thighbones, ASW (like birds) or movable thighbones. However, some people suggsest coeluosaurs had the same type of leg movement as birds ("kneedriven walking").[5]
Bellow lungs are lungs like our own, which alternately is filled with air, and thereafter emptied, after which you take a new breath. This type of lungs exist in mammals, most reptiles, and most amphibians (although some frogs get their oxygen through the skin). There is no evidence for airsacs in Ornithischia, so the likely had bellow lungs.
References.=

↑ (see the video at http://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/tawa/)

↑ (Claessens & O'connor, 2006).

↑ Alcober O.A, Sereno P.C, Larsson H.C.E et.al (2008), "Evidence for Avian Intrathoracic Air Sacs in a New Predatory Dinosaur from Argentina", Public Library of Science Journals.

↑ http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/20q5Z4/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7081166.stm

↑ http://www.geol.umd.edu/~tholtz/G104/lectures/104coelur.html.

This diagram illustrates how scientists believe the dinosaur group theropoda shall be classed in a phylogenetic tree, besides Sauropoda and Pterosauria. The main reason of this diagram is to show groups or families which had respiratory system like birds. AS in the diagram is abbreviations for "Airsacs", and ASW means "AirSacs supported by immobile femur and a knee-driven Walk". BL means "Bellow lungs". Airsacs are known in many different theropods, as well as in birds, which most scientists believe are descendants of dinosaurus. Air sacs are found in the primitive Tawa hallae,[1] the abelisaurid Majungasaurus,[2] as well as Allosauroids like Aerosteon.[3] There is also evidence for respiratory systems like penguinss in Deinonychosaurians.[4] The primitive bird Archaeopteryx also had airsacs (Bonde and Christiansen, 2000). It is very likely that Deinonychosaurians had airsacs. We don't know whether Deinonychosauria had a walking/breathing system with immobile thighbones, ASW (like birds) or movable thighbones. However, some people suggsest coeluosaurs had the same type of leg movement as birds ("kneedriven walking").[5] Bellow lungs are lungs like our own, which alternately is filled with air, and thereafter emptied, after which you take a new breath. This type of lungs exist in mammals, most reptiles, and most amphibians (although some frogs get their oxygen through the skin). There is no evidence for airsacs in Ornithischia, so the likely had bellow lungs. References.= ↑ (see the video at http://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/tawa/) ↑ (Claessens & O'connor, 2006). ↑ Alcober O.A, Sereno P.C, Larsson H.C.E et.al (2008), "Evidence for Avian Intrathoracic Air Sacs in a New Predatory Dinosaur from Argentina", Public Library of Science Journals. ↑ http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/20q5Z4/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7081166.stm ↑ http://www.geol.umd.edu/~tholtz/G104/lectures/104coelur.html.

Abelisauridae Aerosteon Archaeopteryx Deinonychosauria +7
cast of Quetzalcoatlus northropi humerus 03 - Pterosaurs Flight in the Age of Dinosaurs

cast of Quetzalcoatlus northropi humerus 03 - Pterosaurs Flight in the Age of Dinosaurs

humérus vol États-Unis moulage +3
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Un superbe crâne de stégosaure vieux de 150 millions d'années réécrit l'évolution des dinosaures
fossile Dacentrurus Dinosauria Stegosauria découverte évolution crâne
Une découverte spectaculaire de dinosaures en Espagne donne aux scientifiques un nouveau regard rare sur le monde des stégosaures. Les paléontologues ont découvert le crâne de stégosaure le mieux conservé jamais découvert en Europe, appartenant à l'emblématique dinosaure plaqué Dacentrurus armatus, qui parcourait la Terre il y a environ 150 millions d'années. Parce que les crânes de stégosaures sont extrêmement fragiles et ne survivent presque jamais intacts, le fossile aide les chercheurs à découvrir des détails jusqu'alors inconnus sur l'évolution de ces géants blindés.
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Une nouvelle découverte de dinosaures – Le dernier titan de Thaïlande
Thaïlande fossile Dinosauria découverte nouvelle espèce
Des chercheurs ont annoncé la découverte d'une nouvelle espèce de dinosaure sauropode.  C'est le plus grand décrit à ce jour en Asie du Sud-Est. De plus, le sauropode nouvellement décrit nommé Nagatitan chaiyaphumensis pourrait être l'un des sauropodes géologiquement les plus jeunes connus d'Asie du Sud-Est. Le matériau fossile a été découvert dans le nord-est de la Thaïlande vers dix
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Giant Tyrannosaur Fossil Found in New Mexico
Un fossile de tyrannosaure géant découvert au Nouveau-Mexique
musée Mexique fossile Dinosauria Tyrannosauridae Tyrannosaurus
Un grand dinosaure tyrannosauridé aurait pu rôder dans les plaines inondables de ce qui est aujourd'hui le Nouveau-Mexique il y a près de 74 millions d'années, selon une équipe de paléontologues de l'Université de Bath, de l'Université d'État du Montana et du Musée d'histoire naturelle et des sciences du Nouveau-Mexique. L'article Un fossile de tyrannosaure géant découvert au Nouveau-Mexique est apparu en premier sur Sci.News : Breaking Science News.
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Des scientifiques découvrent le dinosaure géant du « dernier titan », le plus grand d’Asie du Sud-Est jamais vu
Thaïlande Dinosauria
Un nouveau dinosaure massif découvert en Thaïlande est en train de réécrire l’histoire préhistorique de l’Asie du Sud-Est. Le nouveau nom Nagatitan chaiyaphumensis était un sauropode colossal au long cou qui pesait environ 27 tonnes et vivait il y a plus de 100 millions d'années. Les scientifiques pensent qu’il s’agit peut-être du dernier sauropode géant à parcourir la région avant que la montée des eaux ne transforme le paysage.
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27 mètres, 30 tonnes : le nagatitan, « dernier titan de Thaïlande », est l’un des plus grands dinosaures découvert en Asie
27 mètres, 30 tonnes : le nagatitan, « dernier titan de Thaïlande », est l’un des plus grands dinosaures découvert en Asie
Thaïlande Dinosauria
Il y a 113 millions d’années, un géant parcourait ce qui correspond aujourd’hui au nord-est de la Thaïlande. Long de plus de 27 mètres et pesant près de 30 tonnes, ce dinosaure inédit pourrait bien être le plus grand jamais découvert en Asie du Sud-Est. Mais au-delà de ses dimensions...
15/05/2026 futura-terre
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